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Land reform = returning that which was stolen, and foundation for economic independence
Progressive taxation
Education for Utani to bring them "up to speed"
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Land reform will bankrupt the economy
Jobs are the key to a prosperous future
Promises to create millions of new jobs through privatisation and foreign investment
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Land reform an "intolerable" injustice
Companies are losing touch with their social responsibilities
Government will force companies to provide more jobs
Government will part-fund new jobs
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Forcing companies to create jobs is "welfare"
Jobs the future; capitalise on low wages and foreign investment in industrial sector
Lower taxes to promote investment
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"Give capitalism a chance"; moderate capitalism
Criticises Belson's wealth and size
Jobs require education and investment
Savings must be used for investment not expensive consumer items
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16 million people living on less than C2 a day
Supports state land to Utani, and purchased land to Utani
"Trickle-down" economics will never work; Wealth distribution must be an active task
Progressive taxes; wealth and inheritence taxes
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Best Quote(s) |
"Land reform is the key.. that will provide the sound basis for long term
economic independence and wealth of Utania's millions of Utani."
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"Jobs mean a fixed income, jobs mean certainty, jobs will provide the
foundation for elimination of the horrible poverty this nation is inflicted
with through two hundred years of exploitation by the Guwimithian regime."
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"[Land Reform] is an intolerable injustice inflicted upon a people in order
to correct an injustice perpetrated by a completely different set of people."
"These greedy fat cats have forgotten what their responsibilities are to the
society they belong to."
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"Creating jobs cannot be done by mandate... Companies must have a need for
the people they're employing, otherwise we're going to end up with millions
of company-profit funded jobs where people are doing nothing. I call that
welfare."
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"[Capitalism] produces wealth. It has promoted poor immigrants from Christiana
and Lendosa into wealthy individuals, and promoted millions of Utani from
illiterate, subsistance farmers into doctors, lawyers and very successful
and wealthy golfers."
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"Even if my wages rise to twenty thousand, that is insignificant compared
to the tens of million earned in dividends by Belson's grandchildren."
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Edited extract:
OKARVITS:
"This is a country in desperate need of change, of reforms that will reverse
the past two hundred years of racially-based exploitation and bias. We need
to resolve these issues quickly in order to minimise the pain involved, and
to establish a framework for working toward our collective future. Though I
do accept that these reforms may take a decade to finally bed-down, I believe
the bulk of the truly hard work can be completed within the next four years,
which is what makes this Presidential election the most important in our
history.
The reforms I am proposing are founded on five key actions: land
reform, progressive taxation, significant educational reform, a system of
loans and aid to the poorest of our poor, and setting government on a course
to provide reform in its own institutions and in the infrastructure of the
nation to better serve ALL Utanians.
Very briefly, Land reform is the key action that will provide the
sound basis for long term economic independence and wealth of Utania's
millions of Utani. But, this is also an action founded in the idea that
Utani have been deprived their traditional lands, and that they should be
returned. My policies provide for generous compensation for Uta-Decashi
farmers who are deprived continued ownership through a system of hundred-year
leases, and loan guarantees with Utani land owners.
In order for Utani to be able to take advantage of land reform, to
provide this firm basis of economic independence, the Utani people will
require significant educational resources to be provided. My government will
provide.
I believe that these and other reforms will provide a sound basis
for the future of this country, by reversing the injustices of the past,
and by establishing a framework for future economic independence of the
poorest of our citizens.
MODERATOR: Governor?
HOPE:
I would like to thank the President, first of all, for being a man of such
vision and compassion. He is clearly committed to combatting the poverty we
are surrounded by, a poverty I also absolutely believe must be fought for
the sake of this nation. However, what the President and I are going to
disagree on is implementation. Simply, I do not believe the country can
afford the sort of reform that he is proposing.
In short, such reforms will bankrupt the country... Compensation
for Uta-Decashi former-owners through leases will not succeed in preventing
numerous farmers from going bankrupt under the weight of debts, and this
will become a draw on the economy, regardless whether the government moves
to prevent them...
The key to economic independence for the poorest of our people is
not in land but in jobs. It takes only one family to farm ten hectares,
Mister President, so what will the thousands of other Utani be doing? They
need jobs, because jobs mean a fixed income, jobs mean certainty, jobs
will provide the foundation for elimination of the horrible poverty this
nation is inflicted with through two hundred years of exploitation by the
Guwimithian regime.
It is my firm policy commitment to provide millions of new jobs
through the reforms I will implement on the Utanian industrial economy. A
government-owned company has no incentive to expand as a privately-owned
company does. So, we must capitalise on the companies we have, the
entrepreneurs that this country has bred, and the foreign capital waiting
to invest in this country.
And only I have the experience in making the changes to bring about
jobs, as I created thousands upon thousands of new jobs in Lasanne state
over the past four years.
Only jobs will provide the poorest of our poor with any future, and
boost our economy into providing more income, and even more jobs. Jobs will
be the foundational policy of any Hope administration.
MODERATOR: Mr Langley, two minutes.
LANGLEY:
Governor Hope is right about two things he said. Firstly, the President's
plan for land reform WILL be very expensive, and very unfair on farmers who
have worked their whole lives to build up these farms. It is an intolerable
injustice inflicted upon a people in order to correct an injustice perpetrated
by a completely different set of people.
The Guwimithians stole land from the Utani, then sold it to the
ancestors of our farmers. To go ahead and steal that land back in the name of
justice would be the highest form of criminal activity perpetrated by any
government on this planet.
That said, there is clearly need to address the question of intolerable
poverty amongst our poorest. This is where Governor Hope and I agree a second
time. [Hope makes a face] Yes, incredible as that may seem, Governor. [Audience
chuckles] Jobs are the key to the future, but the Governor's reliance on a
free-market to create those jobs is a futile gesture.
Government must be active in pushing companies to provide jobs, and, if
necessary co-fund the new positions through tax breaks paid for by the taxes
paid by these new workers. It is simple enough for even the Governor to
understand, that foreign investors want money, profits, and have no interest
in creating Utanian jobs.
In fact, allow me to just say this: These greedy fat cats at the top
of the corporate food chains have forgotten what their responsibilities are
to the society they belong to. We are a society, and their corporations
profit because we feel it is fair return to investors. Growing profits and
dividends are a sure sign that greed is ruling the minds of managers and
investors, and they need a President who will remind them of their obligations
to the community they belong to.
And only a Langley administration is prepared to focus on creating jobs
as the path forward, and to ensure that government plays a significant part
in making sure those jobs are created.
MODERATOR: Mr Boornal?
BOORNAL:
Mr Langley, with all due respect, you have no idea what you are talking about.
[Audience chuckles] Creating jobs cannot be done by mandate. That is the way
to bankrupt companies. Companies must have a need for the people they're
employing, otherwise we're going to end up with millions of company-profit
funded jobs where people are doing nothing.
I call that welfare.
The path forward lies in jobs, to be sure, but in providing an economy
that can sustain them, that needs them, and that means bringing foreign
corporations to Utania not shunning them with high taxes and enforced job
quotas.
It is my policy to attract as much as is possible foreign investment
to Utania, and as I believe this is under-exploited at the moment, I believe
this will yield the same dividends as we felt when the President negotiated
the trade deals with Bowdani, Lendosa, Feniz and elsewhere. These deals
brought millions upon billions of punds into the Utanian economy, and that
started a massive investment boom, which then created jobs.
Now at the moment we are experiencing a significant downturn in
exports due to climatic effects, which is why I believe the future lies in
industrial products. If we emphasise our manufacturing and industrial
capabilities, while these are not dependent on our already overburdened
land, we will have a path forward for weather-independent exports.
It is my policy to promote Utania overseas, to promote the fact that
we have comparatively low wages that we are under-developed, that we have
a second-to-few infrastructure, and I will build on these assets.
This is the real path forward.
TALIN:
One full third of the Utanian population is living below the UNV definition
of poverty. That is sixteen million people living on less than two Crowns a
day, and that is truly appalling.
I support the President's drive to reform Utanian wealth inequalities,
and I agree that land reform must play a part in this. I fully support the
President's stand to restore to Utani tribes and communities lands owned by
the state, and support moves to purchase lands from Uta-Decashi to be
returned to Utani.
I believe the way forward also lies in jobs, in developing the
industrial and manufacturing capacity of the country, but I do not believe
that this will come from simply because we invite foreign investment, nor
do I believe this will fully solve the problem of income inequalities, let
alone wealth inequalities.
Simple arithmatic can show this "trickle-down" policy supported by
the all the parties of the right is complete rubbish.
If I am an Utanian earning fifteen thousand pund, I am never going
to get the million-pund house, I am never going to own a foreign-made car,
or be able to afford the trips overseas as the wealthy Lukans do. And even
if my wages rise to twenty thousand, that is insignificant compared to the
tens of million earned in dividends -- they do not even have to turn up to
a job -- by Belson's grandchildren.
Wealth redistribution must be an active task, and activity performed
by the state, or it is nothing at all. It must be facilitated by highly
progressive taxes, by wealth taxes, by
MODERATOR: Mr Talin? Two minutes...
TALIN: inheritance taxes. Either we are serious about this
problem or we are dancing about it. Sorry.
MODERATOR: Quite alright. Mr Olds, your two minutes.
Thank you. I would like to start by encouraging the people of this
country to have faith in the economic system that has created the majority
of the wealth in Utani today. Capitalism may be many things, but it is not
entirely unsuccessful. It produces wealth. It has promoted poor immigrants
from Christiana and Lendosa into wealthy individuals, and promoted millions
of Utani from illiterate, subsistance farmers into doctors, lawyers and
very successful and wealthy golfers.
What is needed is moderation. Capitalism is about promoting the
most successful to the top of the pile by a very wide margin. Responsible
governance is to ensure that the disparity is not too great. The trick
for a good President is to provide balance, and that, I believe, is what
you, the voter, should be looking for in a President: someone who will
provide that balance.
It is the Democratic Party's platform to provide that balance,
to ensure that capitalism is allowed to work, but that it does not create
the sort of monopolistic monsters and disproportionate wealth that Belson
Corporation has become.
I believe that jobs are the secret to success, but so is education
and investment. We must save for our futures, and those funds must be
used to expand our industrial capacity, to create more jobs, not buy the
latest jewellery.
I believe the future can be bright, but we must have faith in it.
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